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Be. i think sheafthey've shown in some of the surrounding towns with the takeout of oil refinery. they've shown they have the ability to do this. even if they didn't do it they they've shown and displayed their ability in a war region to go in and actually do this and there were people in there that they probably would have liked to have had back. and so i don't know if it's necessarily going to come down to the fact to weather wl they did or didn't. we know they could have and we know we have no strategic war plan. >> i want to pivot a little bit to this terror threat level that was raised ye...

Together and bond together can bomb together. we have heard a lot about the recruitment efforts many of them which have been stopped here in the united states but when you look at those numbers, why do you think clearly the fight against the recruitment has been so ineffective. >> it's a good question. i think we were talking about this earlier that the overall war plan is ineffective because it was not well thought out. here's an important part about this is that in kenya there was less than a dozen people that went in and attacked and killed 150. you're talking 22,000 people that have been r...

Exist. yemen is a tactical battleground syria is a tactical battleground and they hold high importance. why we have allowed this to slip away is just an example of how little of a war plan we have. >> so do you, bob to you, i mean we've seen saudi arabia's now leading the coalition of nine middle east nations, right? there's arab power coming from saudi arabia uea, kuwait qatar, morocco, and sudan and egypt. do you agree we have have let this happen let yemen slip through the cracks? >> i mean, we -- this is a hideous diplomatic failure in the sense that we've been unable to put together a coa...

Seal and fbi agent and former cia operative. when you look at this a lot of people point to yemen as yet another example ever a power vacuum giving al qaeda, aqap another breeding ground. have we lost yemen? >> well we definitely lost the ground that we had, and i think overall, what you are seeing here is that we just don't have an effective strategic war plan for battling the fundamental mu haddism. it does not matter shia sunni, we don't have a plan for it. >> when you say, we, do you mean the united states or by our alis? >> this is a global fight now. there has to be a coalition -- yooipi...

Of it. >> this is a u.n. report. being a former navy seal having been on the ground how do they make these assessments and know it is these numbers, this many thousand? >> i'm sure that they have ways of estimate. this is all estimate they are always an estimate. i think when we look at the reality of this it's better to look at the numbers, to look at the overall movement. the fact that it's been globally attacks in every hemisphere that's where we need to start looking. and a coalition is not just a group that goes into a country and fights. a coalition is a like-minded group that has the sa...