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And calling donald trump a dear leader himself. what does china think about this? >> the chinese were sort of scarce in singapore. they weren't right at it they were clearly the big winners here, willie. what the chinese wanted was the status quo. they wanted to make sure that donald trump didn't turn around and bomb north korea, threaten the regime and bring american and south korean forces right up to their level. instead, president is talking about canceling military exercises, well those military exercises drive the chinese crazy. maybe pulling troops out at some point. i mean this is the ...

A little too much or is this red meat exactly what they want? >> i think it's more the red meat that they want and i was struck by the interview with the mother who when asked would you do this if you knew your child would be separated in that click was "i wouldn't have come." that's the whole point. they want that clip. that's the soundbite that defines this. >> that defines who we are. >> that defines who we are. so as far as the administration is concerned, this is working. this is exactly right and so for the base, there's no need to move off of this. but here's the rub, there's the rest o...

>> that was as well put as i've ever heard it. they have sold their souls. thank you so much senator mazie hirono. >> thank you, aloha. >> thank you for being on. we're going to read this editorial from the "new york times." "watching president trump blame democrats for his administration's inhumane practice of snatching immigrant children from their parents at the border evokes nothing so much as an abusive husband blaming his wife for the beatings he delivers. why do you make me do this? i hate doing this? if you'd only be reasonable and listen to me things would haven't to be this way. main...

Relatively silent on almost everything else. but peter could you provide us with a verbal analysis the way you do in the "times" on the current situation? we have a would have staff severely diminished because of people leaving. we have a president seemingly emboldened by this, we have a weakened white house staff, not that john kelly within an adherent for a more sensible policy but he's not listened to and you have a president of the united states basically seemingly operating the way he did when he was a private businessman on trump tower all on his own instinct. and yet the irony is here, ...

The lady standing in new york harbor and says, yeah, whatever, you know. we're going to do this differently. it's not about giving us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free. what this policy is centered around is taking those seeking asylum, all right? up to this point was not a problem. you could do that, you go to the port of entry, can you do that, not an issue. they've moved it into a spats where they've criminalized that. that's tra triggers the separation. it's not the act of seeking asylum. it's how the government interprets that and they're interpreting it in a ...