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And as you know, i had president obama and president clinton -- >> you just skipped over a couple of years. did it take the first couple years of the obama term for the two of them to become -- develop a working relationship? >> i always think when a new president comes in, all former presidents just generally, stay back. let the new president get in. pick his team. you know that. that's just natural. and then over time, it evolved. they spent time together. they were golfing. i spent an hour with the two of them in my home. great warm feeling. talked sports. talked politics. they're different...

>> this is going to replace my piano. >> it meant a lot and was satisfying that i have an instrument in my hand and i can make a living. i'm not tied down. >> by replacing the damaged instruments, music rising also helped reopen preservation hall. >> its warm feeling to be here. we get such a great sound in this hall and that is why you can't touch. >> it music rising had only just begun. september 25, 2006, the new orleans saints at their home stadium. >> we were invited to reopen the