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Law, and that republicans should pay for this politically. so all those messages being voiced right now behind closed doors from president obama to democrats. and interestingly, i'm told he said you can call it trump care, it's no longer obamacare. a lot of talk about politics and strategy and messaging in this fired-up room. >> interesting. so is it possible, since president obama, once he leaves office, is going to stay around washington for a while, they have a house and everything, they're renting a house. is it possible that president obama will still be involved after he leaves office in...

Core conservatives who oppose any moderation on the immigration issue? >> it is a split in the party, stuart. although it's one i feel, having been down in washington for a while, it is not quite as hot as it was years ago. there is still a faction of the party that really dislikes the idea of any kind of immigration reform. they call it amnesty. they call it all kinds of things. but what you have seen down here is a growing sense among many republicans, a majority of republicans, that, a, immigration reform is necessary. it actually is needed to restore the rule of law. that also this is an i...

Core conservatives who oppose any moderation on the immigration issue? >> it is a split in the party, stewart. although it's one i feel, having been down in washington for a while, it it is not quite as hot as it was years ago. there is still a faction of the party that really dislikes the idea of any kind of immigration reform. they call it amnesty. they call it all kinds of things. but what you have seen down here is a growing sense among many republicans, a majority of republicans, that a., immigration reform is necessary. it actually is needed to restore the rule of law. that also this is ...

Ago that this is the type of thing you can be blackmailed for. it's really a danger that should be addressed. >> gregg: not the first embarrassment under the stewart ship of michael sullivan. infamous salehes and breached security of secret service and got very close to the president. something could have happened. you've been around washington for a while. would you anticipate the resignation of sullivan on his own or at the behest of the white house? >> he could be inched out over time. we'll see exactly what happens here. there have been several errors and at some point, some heads to have ...

We're back. now something we've done in the past couple of years. the tables get turned right now and i'm going to be grilled, well, somewhat, by, and i mean it, the great kathleen matthews, who anchored the news here in washington for a while, and then became, as she is now, a top executive for marriott international, and has travelled the world. i sit at home at night and she tells me about china and what's happening in the amazon and what's happening in the new st. petersburg in russia. and i'm here, you know, in washington, d.c., covering local politics nationally here, and you see the wor...