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You want to get them done efficiently. >> right. >> effectively and on time. and then you have to make sure you've got the most talented and cohesive group around you to help implement. you must drive forward. you have to manage, if you will, like program manage your leadership team. because you can't do-it-yourself. so, i think he's really leading like a ceo. it's his background. it's what he's done. it's his comfort zone. and he has to grow into being presidential. >> he says grow into being presidential. he says washington needs to catch up to the pace president trump is setting specificall...

Review magazine. okay, so, we have -- between now and then, what does rubio need to do in terms of hitting, who duz he need to beat? >> if it's a three-man race, cruz and trump are outsiders. running against the washington machine. rubio plays well with leaders, so, he hopes that trump and cruz battle it out. he runs up the middle between them. >> rubio's folks who were backing him and some of the people who are his critics are saying yeah, but he's kind of played both ends to the middle. not really committing. he wants to stay nimble. >> all three are pretty nimble. trump says something diffe...

There's sort of mention of his family, there's a restatement of what the question was. ted cruz is a fantastic debater. i think if you get ted cruz and marco rubio on a debate stage, that would be something to see. >> i don't know where kasich goes now. i think kasich has a general election appeal, but within the republican party, he's fighting the fight he's always fought and he seems to be on the losing side of that. >> if it does come down to senator cruz and marco rubio, that would be an overwhelming victory for the grassroots movement in america which got these guys elected over the will ...

He had a strong night as well especially his rant against the media. i guess the big question for ted cruz, can he turn this appeal to the republican base broader? what's his ticket to appealing to suburban moms? >> sure. >> how does he do that? >> i mean, look at the hostility towards washington right now goes across all party lines. there's nobody that has taken on the washington machine, they call it the washington cartel, as much in the last two years as senator ted cruz. i think he speaks to all people, republican, democrat, libertarian, progressive, whatever who are fed up with the way w...

American dream. defeat the washington machine. i'm in the same vain. i guess i'm just not for burning it. i do think this is the main thing i hear when i talk to republicans and conservatives is they don't think we're doing enough. that the power of the purse is ours but we sort of admit defeat and we just say we don't have the votes to defund anything when in reality, if we were to let spending expire, the other side would have to get 60 votes to spend any money. then the power would be on our side. we're sort of afraid to get to that point. we should let all spending expire until democrats a...