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It will set you free. greene in '16. >> thank you guys so much for having me. >> how you doing, jim? >> are you going to do what i do and just ignore him? >> he is. >> i'm doing great. >> he's like jim maceda yesterday in london. i asked him a question and he just keeps coming. so is there any evidence at all that, any evidence at all, that this wasn't just dumb luck? >> yeah, there's some evidence. the fact of the matter is, from the very beginning of this process, the people at the democratic party headquarters had some real suspicions, and they would not accept the first check that came in,...

In, be tougher. >> well, congress is going to be tough on thursday when bp executives go to capitol hill. of course they're going to be meeting with the president tomorrow. and that's going to be an interesting stage managing job for the white house. you have the executives in to the white house. the meeting is not going to be public. but the question is, does the president somehow turn that into a public -- semipublic woodshed moment with the executives right there. does he somehow read them the riot act in a way? it's kind of extraordinary. i can't think of a meeting that i recall that's jus...

>> what do you do? >> i'd like to actually -- >> just walk away, renee. >> that's a great song. >> like i said at the very beginning of this conversation, i've been with you in situations where this has happened. and you have kerized tremendous restraint. and the -- >> you wouldn't guess that would you just looking at me on the slow? >> no, actually my blood pressure went up thinking this is not going to end well. it was really what you did with the little camera down the elevator shaft. but having said that, i bring other experiences to the table. >> how about -- >> that make me look at that ...

Expecting from around the corner of his face and if someone did that to me, i'm sure as heck might grab his wrist and say, get away from me. >> let me just say, i give up. >> you should. because i'm right. >> wow. >> so seriously, if you're a public figure and somebody asks you something with a camera phone you have a right to assault them? >> do you want me to show you? >> grab them by the wrist, grab them by the neck. this is the new standard. seriously? >> i don't think there has to be one standard. >> just innocent question like far away from the podium. but, okay. >> wow. >> on the other ...

>> secretary gibbs, before you go, you talked a lot about energy in terms of goals. but i would think that the folks around this table and people across america would love to be able to envision a future with our children never have to deal with anything like this. is the president going to announce something concrete tonight, or just talk about goals? >> well, look, what has passed, we've passed in congress some very concrete things. the senate is now going to take up these proposals. again, to invest in a clean energy economy, to make clean energy profitable for businesses in this country. t...