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And criticisms that he's had about the investigation and in fact at one point said that -- made a reference to the justice department and said he thought he could do whatever he wants with the justice department. although for the moment, he's not doing that. >> okay. a lot to get through in this article. let me read through this part of it again. it makes the country look very bad, and it puts the country in a very bad position. so the sooner it's worked out, the better it is for the country. and again, he reiterated at least 16 times that there has been no collusion, at least that's what he b...

Sheer who helped break the story for the "new york times". he's also a cnn political analyst and he joins us now via skype. michael, i'm glad you could join us on the story in the "new york times" this evening. your colleague, michael smith landed an impromptu interview with the president today and the big headline, he believe the special counsel will treat his fairly in the russia investigation. >> yeah, no, that's right. it was about a half hour interview and totally impromptu down at the president's golf club in west palm beach, florida. but there was a lot there. the thing that struck us m...