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Obliterated, dislocated was the word used in translation, that effectively there is just nothing left of this plane. and of course the sighting of human remains but no sightings so far of any survivors. and the announcement early that it is unlikely there will be any survivors. what you are seeing on your screen right now is exactly what it would look like in the united states if there were a crash. there would be a staging area that looked exactly like this, with responders and tents and emergency vehicles at the ready, a large zone set up and ready to go for whatever it is they come across. ...

Something was happening. what it says to me is something was happening in that airplane that got their attention. st they got some sort of warning and they were responding to it appropriately. it's been discussed now the drop in altitude. i wouldn't even call it a drop. it sounded like a normal descent. we do that every day typically on an arrival. >> not when you're in the alps, though? >> well, when you're at 38,000 feet, you're still -- there's still no issues with terrain. you have a good point when you get down to lower altitude. but what it citizsays to me is need to divert somewhere, so...

Descent. but as les just said, that's not so precipitous. >> right. and i checked the descent rates for this aircraft, looked at the charts and the tables and this is one that's allowed. now, at this altitude, though, the recommended descent rate is less than that. but it's not the kind of a descent rate that would cause pieces of the plane to come apart. it wasn't an uncontrolled descent rate and the plane wasn't dropping from 38,000 feet at terminal velocity. but this is higher than what's recommended for the airbus at that altitude but certainly not something where the pilots were causing d...