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This is a big conspiracy theory and they have all these friends in the media who are out there trashing solomon's reporting and he reminded me, hundred front page stories for "the washington post" when he worked for "the washington post." they left him then, but now he's looking into something else. what are your thoughts? >> it's fascinating. they can call it a conspiracy theory all they want. it's certainly a conspiracy, but it's not a theory. i follow his work at admire it and i've been following it for a long time. he has government documents from ukraine! legal teams for burisma, their ow...

Defense secretary for donald trump in the book? >> i don't, steve. bing west and i my co-author we began the book in 2013 when some people reminded me i had been very fortunate and they were right. so what you want to do when you get my color hair you pass on the lessons you learned. steve: a lot of people would like to hear about it. from where we sat it looked like a tense relationship. >> no. it wasn't a tense relationship. the president is a forth right man and so am i. i would meet with him weekly. there was nothing going on that i wasn't open with him about. that's the way i deal with my...

Was here. we had a chance to ask him about the relationship and working with the president. this somewhat he had to say. >> it tense relationship. president is a forth right man and so am i. i would meet with him weekly. there was nothing going on that i wasn't open with him about. that's the way i deal with my boss. anywhere i have ever been. and he was. steve: because he is the boss, right? >> he was elected by the american people. i was asked to serve. and i come from -- i was raised by the greatest generation. but when you are asked to serve, republican or democrat, don't start ringing you...

Serious activity that was going to be conducted by the special counsel's office, happened before he got to the department of justice. so two things here that it could mean. it could also tell us that he came toward the end of this investigation. things are starting to wrap up here and that really, his only involvement was just to be brief. that he didn't really have to make any significant decisions. the other thing i want to point out. he was speaking to an audience of one. people at the department of justice were not happy with his performance. today people i talked on said that they were em...

He was speaking to an audience of one. people at the department of justice were not happy with his performance. today people i talked on said that they were embarrassed by what did he today and people at the department of justice really never thought that he should be in the position that he was in. so yes, he may have been brief but i don't know that anyone wanted to make a serious decision at the department of justice. >> very interesting. so he wasn't open with his conversations with the president about michael cohen. >> we had done some reporting, our team had done that, the president was ...