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They go low against donald trump or they go high or whatever. look at oprah's speech. she gave a very political speech that wasn't partisan. it was extremely accessible to anyone to listen to. but it was very much aimed at women and minorities. but it wasn't over the top. it wasn't race baiting. she told a story. and she talked about the importance of voting. and she said this woman shows my values, and that's why i support her. and it was a beautiful speech. and i think everyone felt good listening to it. to me it was like a breath of fresh air. i'm very curious to know what republicans oprah...

They wanted to hurt hillary clinton. you know that. >> you know this thing was not vetted when it was presented as evidence. >> we do not know that. we know it was of vetted. certain of it could be corroborated. it was disclosed to the court. multiple judges -- >> they didn't -- it wasn't partisan. >> who paid for it and it was about what they could corroborate. but that i could see as a red herring. we will let people decide on that. >> we talked about it ad nauseam. >> what did this cost you and your family? >> so far about $125,000. i still have the possibility of three more senate hearings...

And it was not particularly political. at least it wasn't partisan. william sessions is a republican. he'd been appointed by a republican president. served under two republican presidents. despite that, he was actually much more popular with democrats on capitol hill than he was with republicans on capitol hill. so there was this real mixed picture in terms of partisanship and partisan interests. there was also never any question about whether bill clinton might be firing the fbi director to stop some fbi investigation or to twist the fbi around into taking a more favorable view of his adminis...

1993. within the first few months of his presidency, bill clinton decided to fire him. and that's how william sessions became the first, and until this year, the only person to ever be fired as fbi director. and again, it was not the biggest scandal in the world, and it was not particularly political. at least it wasn't partisan. william sessions is a republican. he'd been appointed by a republican president. served under two republican presidents. despite that, he was actually much more popular with democrats on capitol hill than he was with republicans on capitol hill. so there was this real...

Went through and the emotions of the crowd. we all shall an emotional reaction to it as well. it cut through the politics. he was trying to cut through the politics to get to the core of what the conversation should be about, right? there are real consequences of the debate. there's different ways of fixes of problem, but there are real consequences of the debate. i was struck by that. >> a couple things. one is that it wasn't partisan. he didn't call on you the republicans or the democrats. he called out both. he said we're one team, we're one america. what's important about that is a couple ...