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This clean power act, which would put the utilities out of business, gratuitously and in terms of cleaning up water, the funds are there to do it, specific programs, but the epa has gone way, way beyond that. you could cut that agency in half and we'd have a cleaner environment. david: e-mack it's not happened, 31% is a big cut. >> some of the cuts bring the epa and other agencies back to where they were ten years ago. i agree with steve, you know, we don't want pollution, we want clean water, but let's get rid of the costly circus plate spinning acts like biofuels and solar and wind and let t...

In. don't worry about washington, worry about the american people and the economy. when you get reagan type tax cuts and more jobs are created and more opportunities are created. that's the key thing. i don't care about washington, i care about the american people, go for them, not washington. david: and, bill, i hate for the phrase, you have to pay for the tax cut. you don't have to pay for tax cuts. it's my money. >> it is your money and i totally agree with steve. we've got to shrink the size of the federal government and stop being such a burden on individuals, but i think it's time for st...

Stuff, it appears he's banging the drums for war and same time they're proposing a 30% cut in the budget of the state department, unless we're going to get the trump and kushner family to-- >> well, aren't we going to talk to anybody or spend money on defense. david: we can talk. as i said before, e-mack, just cut the wine expenses for the state department, that would cut the budget in half right there. >> that's funny and $125 billion in waste at the pentagon a recent finding. david: right. >> i think the president is not talking about banging the drums through war, but peace through strength...

Family has to pay in a bronze plan, $12,000 before they reach the point where insurance kicks in. you might as well not have any insurance. better to deduct the first dollar you pay for health care from your paycheck. >> the democrats confused insurance coverage to access to health care and affordable health care, we need to more more in a free market direction. i don't know why in terms of health insurance we don't do with the-- or what we do with food. food stamps and the government doesn't run agriculture as they used to in russia and china and starve millions to death. they'll have free ma...

Itself in the foot if they tried to stop it or halt it. david: on the other hand, bruce, it won't go completely without cost for us, this could affect commerce as well on our side, right? >> well, yeah, i mean, here is the thing. this whole thing, the travel ban, it wasn't thought through and you're going to get more of this unless they stop, and less until they stop making these decisions in a vacuum. it's bad, we don't want this, they're our allies. david: it's a kind of blackmail, isn't it? >> not exactly blackmail. i think the eu is going to back down as well. i think we have to keep in mi...