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About how to fix these programs that they've been delaying, and that's going to harm the people who depend on them the most. martha: absolutely. changes were made as he said in 82 and 83, but they didn't, you know, produce any long-term reform because here we are talking about it again. you know, in terms of -- do you think there is an opening for some sort of grand bargain agreement? because you seem to be fairly pleased, mai with at least the cpi beginnings to this. >> i think the cpi was a very good-faith effort to put on the table. what we need to do now is stop talking about kind of the p...

Day-to-day to see if the tensions are actually going about on the ground, fulfilling thepblss on the ground. are the north korean troops moving closer to the dmz? are there ships dispersing? there are a lot of things out there. we have to be very, very careful. when you kick in that door, you know, to a war you're not exactly sure what you're going to get. like i said i think there would be a lot of death and destruction. we ned to be cautious and we are taking good, defensive measures with missile defense, very, very important and a delicious irony here that the obama administration is finall...

Very dangerous, splintered factions of al-qaida exist. again i think in terms of proactive kinetic forces, special operations, good intelligence and drones as we have done in pakistan. we ned to start looking at doing that in northern africa. jenna: we know you are very busy out in virginia. windy virginia, we can hear that on the microphone where the g.o.p. is having their retreat. thank you for your time, stepping out to talk to us about this important story. >> thank you, jenna i appreciate it. jon: some brand-new numbers that show a dramatic drop in cancer deaths in this country. what's be...

Republicans and democrats are seeing who blinks first it appears. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. good morning to you. martha: hello there. bill: we know there is no set meeting on the schedule for the white house for the president to sit down with congressional leaders. they talked on the phone on the weekend. all that can change by the day. the president will appeal to americans, some of them to put pressure on maker lawmakers. republicans indicating you do not need to raise tax rates to get to the deficit. >> we ned we need a realistic chance for it to pass congre...

So she may have been put in a very difficult position, and i think it's legitimate to ask by whom and why. martha: you have very big concerns about that as well, mike, who changed or twisted as you say the words that were from the intel talking points and they were interpreted very differently. >> sure, i mean clearly somebody sat around with a word document or either red lined it or changed the words on the computer to reflect what it was that the administration wanted to say. it was a small group of people that were doing that. in evidence of that really frankly you have the fact that secret...