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What you have to do. you have to get someone flupd a human intelligence plant a double agent or someone inside because that way you can actually avoid having to do a lot of external penetration. ultimately we talk about insider threats here all time. we need to get inside of what they are doing that way we know exactly what's going on within that. we need to do both. look at the technology. then again go back to the second oldest profession of clandestine operations. >> the big question that's been developing and we don't have the time to resolve it here, but the snowden effect on intelligence...

Look at the technology. then again go back to the second oldest profession of clandestine operations. >> the big question that's been developing and we don't have the time to resolve it here, but the snowden effect on intelligence gathering in the war against the seahawk state and this kind of terrorism, do you have a sense of how to describe that effect at this point, if any >> i think as you said, what's become the overriding factor is operational security. everybody has really tried to keep things secret as best they can and it's a fine line to walk because now is the time where we should s...

5,500 accounts suspended with more than 100 isis websites shut down since the group first went after isis a year ago opinion experts say making a dents in the isis social media machine won't be easy because banned accounts can be quickly renamed. >> somebody can easily change their name on twitter or facebook. it's whack-a-mole. >> reporter: a stanford expert says what anonymous is doing can be a useful nuisance. >> when you get harassed you're less effective in doing your work. so while they are recovering from harassments they are not doing as many bad things as they were doing before. >> re...

That's true in the tribalal areas of pakistan, true in mali and syria, iraq and libya and other places like that. if you look at the totality of deaths to terrorism the vast majority and nigeria as well, come in some sort of rebellion or territorial conflict. >> jan berger, what about this possible sense of competition between al qaeda and isis? is that present in a situation like this after isis has a big display in paris, al qaeda wants to have its own display like this? >> well, an operation like this probably was planned for some time so, they didn't just see paris and decide to pull this ...

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