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The overpowering air capabilities, his air defense and long range missile capacity, he does have the capacity to knock out ukraine's, most of ukraine's high tech defense. he'll have to fight people on the ground, but the ground is frozen there, he can move the tanks through the swamps north of kyiv, he could have forces outside kyiv and if they weren't actively resisted in a day. >> yeah, look, another option for him would be to weaponize energy, which he's done in the past as well. raises a big question as to why nato in european countries there are not more energy independent. this is someth...

>> they shut down their nuclear energy program, which makes no sense, but there are other options. you've gotten our way, the u.k., the netherlands, other countries that have energy resources that they could have access to, but they choose to continue to build these pipelines and become increasingly dependent upon russia. and that is a major problem. >> harris: is this an accident, or is it really that you have an expected communication with some of our strongest allies in europe, saying we may really be on board with promising that 2%. they want to have a little extra time, but what do you ma...

Germany. watch it. become it's very sad when germany makes a massive gas deal with russia, where you are supposed to be guarding against russia, and germany goes out and it does this. so we are supposed to protect you against russia, but then they pay billions of dollars to russia, and i think that's very inappropriate. it should have never been allowed to have happened. they will be getting it from 60-70% of their energy from russia. >> harris: so that's how it started, and then a little bit later in the morning, friendlier tone, when he met with angela merkel. he described it as a great meet...

Germany and russia. >> right. and i think it is probably somewhat of an uncomfortable subject for the germans to have raised there, but the president is absolutely right. they are becoming increasingly dependent upon russia for energy. russia has proven that they like to weaponize energy. they did that with ukraine, and clearly, they want to get germany even more addicted to russian energy, and i think that is an important issue that needs to be discussed. the president obviously has his own way of raising these types of issues, but this is one of many issues that needs to be a part of the con...