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Navy seal who took out usama bin laden. and michael waltz. welcome to both of you. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: i want to plea about what the president said about who is responsible and where to go next. >> we are getting clarity about who was responsible for the weapons attacks and we are getting some very good clarity. we have some pretty good answer answers. >> we have a lot of options military. we'll be letting you know pretty soon. probably after the fact. >> shannon: rob, how much more do we need to know about this? a lot of people are questioning if the president said, i think we'...

And two person teams. in israel we started to see individual weapons attack where a person would just pick up a kitchen knife, and then we saw these vehicles as weapons attacks. israel suffered over 60 attacks like this in the last few years and isis got on to that strategy and inspired their followers to get a vehicle and carry out these mass murders. we can put up bare cased and little things, but you cannot protect against just anyone getting into their mind that they're going to carry it out. >> and the isis leader, one of them, was telling his followers do whatever you can where ever

In action than he is in rhetoric. and i also think that the cabinet, the national security cabinet, is extraordinarily calm, cautious, and deliberative. and that's a great thing in a crisis like north korea. >> kori schake, appreciate your expertise on this program. there's been a lot of talk today about weapons attacks. but what about acoustic attacks. have you heard about this one? americans working at the embassy in cuba forced to return home in one of the most bizarre stories of the day. at panera, a salad is so much more than one thing.

>> and that has always been the nexus. that's the one thing that has not really been attacked. and the muslim world is only just starting to do that. the west has been leaning on weapons attacks and bombings, which creates more terrorists, rather than going hard after the religious -- fake religious basis of these islamic cults. >> it is an apocalyptic death cult, not just a cult. >> absolutely. >> that's why it is hard for westerners to empathize and get their head -- >> what do you mean by that? >> in isis and al qaeda theology, they believe that there is going to be a war and it is end time...

For attackers to take up what they call the self-starting jihad or jihad in place. don't come to a battle zone. stay at home. use some of the simplest tools you have. they took these tactics from the palestinians, which we call suicide individual weapons attacks. that's where youick up a hammer, a knife, a kitchen knife, and what you do is come out and you deliberately attack a soldier or a policeman and try to kill that individual, then wait to be killed. we also saw them develop the vehicle as weapon system attack, as israel had over 50 of the attacks before the attack in nice and the attack...