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Beginning of how does this work. we have a weapons expert who has worked on many films. and he'll take us through what the possibilities are here. he is firearm trainer bill davis. thank you for taking this opportunity, sir. >> you're welcome, chris, thank you. >> so bill, literally, assume the people you're talking to, starting with me, know nothing, and this sounds completely wild, that how does a movie gun hurt somebody? what are the possibilities in your mind about what could have gone wrong here? >> well, first of all, i'm hearing a lot on the news, different news outlets, that we're talk...

Definitely don't have a reason for people to be trying to capitalize on it politically which i have seen. in this case, equally as awful as -- >> i didn't understand any reason in any of the early media accounts to talk about this guy gsh and by the way, it's not like he is my best buddy. it's not like he is don to me or something like that. i am actually friends with his brother, not him. >> i'm friends with alec and his wife. i know them. >> i am just saying the idea that in describing that this is alec baldwin like people don't know who he is. you had to talk about his run-ins with police a...

Now that we have the universe of our questions and our concern and the stakes, let's go to the beginning of how does this work. we have a weapons expert who has worked on many films. and he'll take us through what the possibilities are here. he is firearm trainer bill davis. thank you for taking this opportunity, sir. >> you're welcome, chris, thank you. >> so bill, literally, assume the people you're talking to, starting with me, know nothing, and this sounds completely wild, that how does a movie gun hurt somebody? what are the possibilities in your mind about what could have gone wrong here...

Camera? that would be a logical possibility given that the cinematographer was killed. but we just don't know. i think unfortunately in an environment like this, where there's a void of information, that's where rumor and speculation and innuendo end of filling. so the sooner that authorities can give us more details the better. >> yeah. so true. there are very strict guidelines and protocols for weapons on any set. i heard one expert this morning say that -- a weapons expert who's worked on multiple movies -- say he had no idea this was possible unless the gun was, like, one foot away from th...

List that was known. these things have come out so that's a behavioral issue that needed to be resolved a long time ago. what happened was he continued along that behavioral continuum to the point that he transcended into physical harm. same thing with this online rhetoric that we saw in el paso. again, we need to get ahead of that. so i think that hopefully is what the president was talking about. but it's -- the question comes who's the steward of that? what's the governance over that? who's going to provide that oversight in terms of mental health care. law enforcement, the community, it's ...