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>> let's look at the new development. it brings up questions about gingrich. an incredible interview with abc news. his second wife reveals that newt said their marriage -- let's.her speak for herself. here's marianne gingrich, the second ex-wife of newt gingrich. >> you want me all to yourself, calista doesn't care what i do. >> what was he saying, do you think? >> he was asking to have an open marriage, and i refused. >> he wanted an open marriage? >> yeah. that i accept the fact that he has somebody else in his life. >> and you said? >> no. no. that is not a marriage. >> well, webster's dic...

>> well, you know what i've learned -- >> you said, "well," is that the answer, well? >> no. >> do you believe they're christians, in other words? to that central point. >> well, i don't believe all baptists are christians. i'm a baptist, i don't believe all baptists are christians, all catholics are christians, or all mormons are christians. nobody goes to heaven in a group, chris. we go individually to heaven or hell, personally based on what we believe in jesus christ. >> you're very good at this, but this is called spin. >> no, it's not. >> i want to ask you, sticking to the issue of faith...

>> do you believe they're christians, in other words? to that central point. >> well, i don't believe all baptists are christians. i'm a baptist, i don't believe all baptists are christians, all catholics are christians, or all mormons are christians. nobody goes to heaven in a group, chris. we go individually to heaven or hell, personally based on what we believe in jesus christ. >> you're very good at this, but this is called spin. >> no, it's not. >> i want to ask you, sticking to the issue of faith and belief. >> not all mormons believe what mormons believe. >> you know you've stirred up -...