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To be seeing the number one test of that right there in kandahar. >> bret: fred, just coming across now, president obama in an interview with nbc talking about his meeting with harmid karzai says this. i think he is listening, but i think that the process is too slow. we have been trying to emphasize the fierce urgency of now. >> well, there is a cliche for you. i don't think that helped much. karzai, look, the most important thing is to win militarily, to secure cities. to make the afghan people safe, and then -- and then there will be a possibility of solving the political problem. but you h...

To run this country, we're going to be seeing the number one test of that right there in kandahar. >> bret: fred, just coming across now, president obama in an interview with nbc talking about his meeting with harmid karzai says this. i think he is listening, but i think that the process is too slow. we have been trying to emphasize the fierce urgency of now. >> well, there is a cliche for you. i don't think that helped much. karzai, look, the most important thing is to win militarily, to secure cities. to make the afghan people safe, and then -- and then there will be a possibility of solving...