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Of the story, including noah oppenheim, the president of nbc news, on six occasions ordering us to stop reporting. the head of the investigative unit underneath him eight times to stop reporting that eventually escalated to ordering us to cancel interviews. you can judge for yourself it's laid out in the book whether what we had was enough. we had a tape of weinstein admitting to sexual assault and multiple named women in every version of the story but that's actually not the point. the order to stop was unjournalistic and that's not just my account but working level producer's count. he recen...

President trump criticized shep. he would tweet against shep. the president seems always to promote the opinion shows on fox and attack the news division. for example, he attacked that fox poll this week that showed impeachment getting a majority support among americans. david, your reaction? >> well, one of the things is, you know, with trump doing that, it really can wear you down. i mean, some of your reporting, you talked about him, about shep just wanting to move on. maybe being tired of this. you know, i heard some of that from megyn kelly when trump went after her on social media. she w...

He does sbrirz interviews in thg week. last word? >> we know they shut down that reporting. the biggest thing about this book historically is it's a granular look at what it takes when you take on patriarchy. the women are coming out and the men are trying not to be held to this reckoning, and mia farrow is in the middle of it. someone just got up one day, and said, oh, let's stop patriarchy. these women are in this battle and ronan farrow told his story. do you know what it takes to bring these guys down? weinstein, nbc. what was just said about the men shaping the narratives, that's

You've been talking about cbs and the other outlets. what do you make of nbc's handling of this? >> well, you know, i have likened the experience of both reporting on sexual harassment and assault and learning from other reporters the kind of things that are happening behind closed doors. to the movie "get out," to the pre-cease moment where allison williams, who the character has seen dangle the keys, we've dean sueplicitiy or the attitudes that underpin sexual harassment and assault. my question -- and i worked at nbc, and there's a lot of people i really respect there. i think that they des...

Kindest thing that you can say about him. and now after farrow's book about these incidents, i laugh in their face when they tell me how committed they are to -- to a diverse workplace and protecting women who come into the workplace. there is outrageous. you know -- this is outrageous. you know, the account of the way -- look, in fairness to nbc, let me say this -- when you are doing a story, when you know powerful people are going to come at you with everything you have, sometimes a young reporter, sometimes any reporter thinks they're slow walk it when they're just being careful. but this w...