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hampshire. remember and back in 2016, this was trump's first win. this was at the beginning of the path to the nomination for donald trump, new hampshire was kind to donald trump so look at these new numbers in this poll and it is quite striking when you see it. nikki haley within seven points, 39% for the former president, 32% for the former south carolina governor. chris christie, a distant third, ramaswamy running fourth, ron desantis and low single digits. and, fifth asa hutchison is brilliant just and asterisk in this poll. but think about that, she is within seven points in this poll, so iowa will send -- her on to new hampshire. one quick point, anderson. and we said this all the time. but in new hampshire set specially, the composition of the electorate two weeks from tonight, excuse me for turning my back, we will be absolutely critical. in new hampshire, democrats, independents, they're undeclared voters that could show up on election day, essentially declare yourself a republican for the day and vote in republican primary. if it's a conservative electorate, trump will win. among conservatives, he is up over haley by 40 points. among registered republicans,

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president has, with private individuals, and using the levers of power, sought to fundamentally subvert the democratic republic and the electoral system. >> and argued that impeachment and conviction through a political process should not be required, before a criminal prosecution. >> i think it would be awfully scary if there weren't some sort of mechanism by which to reach that, criminally. >> paula, so what happens next? >> well anderson, it appears unlikely that trump is going to prevail here. but even if he loses, he can still ask the entire circuit to hear his case. now, that would require a majority of the judges in the circuit to agree to hear the case. it's unclear if they will do that. but remember, the strategy is as much about delay as it is about the constitutional questions. and if that doesn't work, he can still appeal to the supreme court. but it's unclear if they are going to want to weigh in here. remember, they are already weighing this other question related to trump about ballot eligibility.

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but the longer that trump can draw this out, and the longer it takes to get the final answer on this question of immunity, the last likely it is that special counsel jack smith will be able to bring his election subversion case to trial. so even if trump loses on the merits here, anderson, he still may win on the tactics. >> paula reid, thanks very much. joining us now, cnn political commentator and former trump campaign advisor david urban. also cnn's kaitlan collins, thank of the source. and with us now, -- ellii honig and jessica roth. like eliahna, she is a former special prosecutor. so elie, what were your big takeaways? >> so anytime you are a lawyer in your finders of vouching for a preposterous, ridiculous outcome, it's a good sign that you are in trouble. and trump's team today took a surprising position, that i think landed them in the spot, where they were arguing that it could be that the president orders murder and cannot be prosecuted. they sort of invented this

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so donald trump, a pretty straight line strong support above 50% in the iowa pole. i've been on the ground in iowa, some people don't question this, but nikki haley is a distant second there. i mean, a distant third, desantis there. so at the moment, if the data is correct, trump gets a big first win. there are people on the ground in iowa who say they think they can get him under 50%. >> is there a path forward for desantis without a strong showing in iowa? >> so remember, joe biden lost the first three contests in 2020. he lost iowa, new hampshire, and nevada. he is president of the united states. so we should never say no. but in the context of the republican primary, ron desantis, what was his calling card? i am trump without the chaos. if trump is beating him, and nikki haley is beating him, coming out of iowa, it gets pretty hard. he says he's in this, he says he's not getting out. but if haley can beat desantis in iowa, then the question, anderson, there could be a lot of pressure on desantis, christie, and others to get out and give haley a clear shot at --

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states. in colorado and maine, they offered to remove trump from the ballot, but the other states, largely on procedural grounds, without getting into the merits, have kept him on the ballot. but they've also left open the possibility that this could be litigated through the general election. so anderson, unless the supreme court really steps in here and provides some guidance to the states on the meaning of this section, this is an issue that could hang over the entire 2024 race. >> when do we expect trump to file his appeal in the colorado case? >> well anderson, i've been on the phone for a large part of the day, trying to get an answer to that very question. what i can tell you is that it's been two weeks since colorado's supreme court removed trump from the ballot. and in that decision, they gave a deadline of january 4th, for an appeal to beef out. they said look, if someone files an appeal here, then this will be state, he will appear on the primary ballot until the supreme court weighs in. now trump has not filed his appeal, but the republican party of colorado has filed an

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mountainside for safety, they ran into the ocean, and 61 people died. so certainly some problems with these sirens, and these warning systems, in the past, anderson. >> randi kaye, i appreciate it, thank you. >> coming up next, the first republican presidential debate is just days away. and, what could be ron desantis's debate strategy, has been posted online. it has detailed suggestions about who he should attack on stage, and who she should defend. we'll talk about with republican strategist mark mckinnon, in a moment. answer a few questions. boom, you get a real offer. sell your car to carvana today. hi, i'm jill and i've lost 56 pounds on golo. hi, i'm barry and i've lost 42 pounds. jill and i are a team. if she tells me to do something, i usually jump on board. golo was doable, it's realistic, and it's something we can do the rest of our lives.

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likely operating on the platform. >> is there any way to tell who is responsible for erika marsh or where they come from? >> that's the million dollar question isn't? it >> it's just fake. you know it's fake, the whole thing was fake. >> on the profile it says that erica marsh worked on the biden obama campaigns. i assume that is fake as well? >> anderson, it was all made up, but you see quite sophisticated there. experts tell us that this could easily have been the work of a foreign government or a group or even a ploy to make money from all the clicks and

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>> it's our practice to use the most effective means of conveying, an emerging message to the public. and >> while that may have worked in some cases, the wildfire move so swiftly, it knocked out power and cell service. so, how are residents supposed to receive those warnings? >> there was no warning at all. there's not a, not a siren, not a -- alert, nothing. not a call. >> and anderson, hawaii has had issues with its warning system before. in 2018 actually, a cell phone alert mistakenly went out, warning of an incoming missile attack. of course, you can imagine that caused widespread panic among residents across the hawaiian islands. and then in 1960, this has been going on for decades. in 1960, there was actually a tsunami that hit an area known as hilo, hawaii. and, people there didn't know what the warning siren meant. they didn't know what to do, so instead of running up into the

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around rules that prevent the super pac from giving private information to the candidate? >> this is pretty shocking anderson. for your viewers. just that they understand. when you set up a pack campaign, there are these archaic, finance campaign rules that separate the way you can communicate with the campaign. and so often what aipac will do, will put up something publicly or put it on our website. i can add. so the campaign is what you are doing. but the notion that you would put up publicly a strategic memo, designed to give the candidate insights into what they would do in a debate and make it public is insane. the last thing you would want to do is telegraph to anybody, much less your opposition what you are going to do in a debate. because now, when everybody watches the debate, as soon as he does any one of those things. and by the way most of those things are what i would recommend you do. but when he does them, they

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