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To getting bin laden and using drones. so obviously i'm not always aligned with the administration on this point. but, you know, again, the american people want us to take military action when our national interest is threatened. and in the last several years since the bush administration, we've moved from direct and clear and credible threats to hypothetical threats that is not enough to justify putting american lives at stake. there are hypothetical threats all other the place. it's not enough. in this case, american intervention taking sides trying to put military muscle into a political pr...

And i think it's important for everyone to take -- >> chris, it's happened everywhere in the world. as soon as we take on the fighting, it really becomes an american problem. and others stop fighting. we trained the vietnamese armed forces and it became a million and a half under arms, and they were well trained and well armed. we did it in afghanistan. we're even doing it to a lesser degree in syria. we did it in spades in iraq, and what happened? as soon as we stopped doing the fighting, they walked away from it. >> dr. geld, thank you for your time. >> sure. up next, when is a school shoo...

Friendly soldiers, and then begins to pull out. and what happens? our good allies on whom we've squandered our sacred lives and our wealth fall apart. that's what's happened in all of those places. that's what's happening in iraq now. no amount of u.s. air and drone attacks will alter the situation. this kind of outcome was inevitable for iraq, given the political lay of the land in that country. it is almost certainly what is also going to happen in afghanistan. there, too, we've fought and died, equipped and trained hundreds and thousands of afghan troops. there, too, america should not be s...

Most well armed, most disciplined military in the world. there is no military battle that can be waged against the u.s. military that the u.s. cannot ultimately win. but that does not mean that everything that we want to win can be construed as a u.s. military battle. right now, the people who thought it would be easy and a great idea and cheap to invade iraq under george w. bush, they want us to restart that war again. frankly, if you press them, they'll tell you they wish it had never ended in the first place. but if you look at those arguments today, and you're overwhelmed by a feeling of, ...

Remember vietnam, he says? the south vietnamese had a million and a half men under arms. these armed forces had plenty to fight with, but they gave up too. the united states military is the biggest, finest, most expensive, most professional, most well armed, most disciplined military in the world. there is no military battle that can be waged against the u.s. military that the u.s. cannot ultimately win. but that does not mean that everything that we want to win can be construed as a u.s. military battle. right now, the people who thought it would be easy and a great idea and cheap to invade i...