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Meeting in june in this -- one way or the other, the russians are trying to gain access, leverage to the campaign. presumably, exert influence. >> does this incident that we are now learning about over last day or so, does it -- it's obviously the offer of damaging information involving hillary clinton. does it fit into how russians operate? >> absolutely. as we recounted in our intelligence communitywe render major objective of the russians was to disparage hillary clinton and her campaign. this comports exactly with yet another way the russians can do that. >> what about this man's claim of ...

Much to stomach. so therefore, i decided that this is not for me. >> reporter: he spent nearly eight years working as a spy against al qaeda, undercover, deep inside the group, on behalf of british intelligence. in fact, dean isn't even his real name. it's a cover to protect his identity. his life as a spy inside the terror group is the subject of a new book, nine lives. >> arguably the most important western spy inside al qaeda. his intelligence was priceless. his identity, one of the most closely guarded secrets in the history of british espionage. >> reporter: one of the book's key revelati...

Know where countries make nuclear weapons and where they store them, so what we fall back to typically is trying to look at their capabilities to make plutonium and weapon grade uranium and those facilities tend to be easier to understand and to inspect. paul: all right, how many of those facilities do we have, for a while we had a plutonium site but we didn't know about enriched uranium site? >> that's right, plutonium is much better understood. a focus of the six-party talks in the 2000's and earlier, and a lot is known about that. i don't think they have a secret reactor but they do have a ...

Know where countries make nuclear weapons and where they store them, so what we fall back to typically is trying to look at their capabilities to make plutonium and weapon grade uranium and those facilities tend to be easier to understand and to inspect. paul: all right, how many of those facilities do we have, for a while we had a plutonium site but we didn't know about enriched uranium site? >> that's right, plutonium is much better understood. a focus of the six-party talks in the 2000's and earlier, and a lot is known about that. i don't think they have a secret reactor but they do have a ...

Mifsud -- or mifsud is there and later goes and tells papadopoulos about the e-mails, right? >> right. so they met at some point in the spring of 2016, and papadopoulos at first, if mifsud was not interested in papadopoulos at all. he thought he was some low level energy consultant. and upon learning he was actually associated with the trump campaign, that's when mifsud started to take interest in papadopoulos, according to special counsel robert mueller's court filings. now we don't know where mifsud himself got the information. that of course is the biggest question. there are a bunch of con...