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Think about anything that's positive, something positive he could say from a leader at leadership standpoint? he drives a very negative narrative and i think that plays into this. >> mike: our crack research team from the u.s. ambassador to the when nikki haley was the featured speaker at clemson and u.s. senator susan funds in spoken women of power. does that work for you? >> i think that's a good start. but this isn't about donald trump or any of those different things. there's a lot of good conservatives with a good positive message about pulling yourselves up and moving forward in a positi...

Think of conservatives and republicans of donald trump do you think about anything positive he could say from a leadership standpoint? he drives a negative narrative that plays into this. >> us ambassador to the un the key haley was the featured speaker at clemson and susan collins spoke at colby college, women of our, does that work for you? >> that is a good start but this isn't about donald trump or any of those things. there are a lot of conservatives with a positive message about pulling yourself up and moving forward in a positive direction, parents are paying thousands to teach young ad...

Hayesing. >> what are the chances of this civil case? >> we know that there's evidence of some of them explain the aspects of it. the standards is lower than what is required in the criminal case. i actually think that once the plaintiff's lawyers get into what clemson knew concerning bridge jumping, and as i understand is common there. >> yeah, there's a history of this happening. >> exactly. exactly. and then if the university knew and if there's an obstruction or if there's been an effort to hide it, that's become part of the case. we're right now in what we call discovery. the lawyers are ...

Guys all the time. you're with them in classes and then on the football field and the meeting room. you're with the football players and the coaches more than for guys like me, i'm coming, i have no family in south carolina. that university and that football team became my family. like i say, coach sweeney, he was my recruiting coach at the time. me and him had a great relationship. i knew where he stood at and he knew where i stood at. we clicked off and it made my transition a whole lot easier being away from my home. >> i'm sure so many other people have had a similar experience like that. ...

C.j., let me start with you. you were a player at clemson. did you feel like any of this religion was ever forced down your throat? >> no. to me, it was never forced upon any player. i came to clemson as a christian. that right there wasn't a big force for any guy -- we had chapel services just like we do in the nfl. it's voluntary, not mandatory -- a lot of my close friends, they didn't come to the chapel service. so to say it's mandatory is just hilarious. >> and they're trying to claim that possibly students who didn't want to come to these chapel services or pick up a became, ainsley, your...