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Reported her to them years earlier. >> had she been arrested, larry risken, i believe, would be a life today. >> we asked the fbi for a response, but they declined to comment. back then, sherry turned over marshals findings to the fbi, hoping that this time, they along with investigators in the philippines would finally crack both larry and duke's cases. >> i was under the impression there was now going to be an investigation to where she was responsible for these two murders and that she would have to pay for it. >> but weeks past. then months. nothing changed. it was business as usual at son...

Had nicole cole sherry in olympia to give her the news. nicole left a voice mail. >> the woman said, i am sonia, lori's neighbor, any due to comey. and i knew. i went into my coworker and i said, i'm going to return a phone call and this person is going to tell me my brother is dead. >> which is exactly what happened. >> and i said hi, sherry, i'm sorry to give you bad news. and she just said, she did it. i know she did it. she did it. >> it was sherry who called the police in lomita. told them to rush over to sonia's place. after they arrived, an officer called sherry back. >> i said, well, p...

>> that caught on. >> that did catch on. >> nicole and jim townsend saw the headlines. heard the stories. it was hard to believe this was sweet little sonia, they're nice neighbor they were once so friendly with. not any more. >> for her to send to husbands back to the philippines and both of them get murdered, that change the relationship permanently. >> i'm going to keep my distance. i said, this is way too coincidental. it's just too weird for me. and i don't want to be a part of it. >> but up in olympia, washington, sherry jackson hadn't seen larry's story about the black widow. and so, wh...

Hope they might eventually see sonia caught and convicted. but for now, their priority was bringing larry's ashes home. giving the man a loving sent off. a formal burial. but even that seemed impossible. >> they'll be no closure without my brothers remains back here. and i was just losing hope that anything was ever going to happen. >> it was all just critical -- >> it was all just going to go away. >> sure seemed that way. and yet, here was sonia, still living that southern california good life. driving her corvette. running her salon. >> she never mentioned wanting to find a killer. nothing....

Somebody. that news reached larry's family as they were preparing for his funeral. >> when we found out that sonia had him cremated and the remains were not coming back, that was yet another slap in the face. sonia controlling everything. >> the family still held the funeral and left a headstone with a small, empty nation. someday they told themselves, someday they would retrieve larry's ashes and put them here. at home. >> for his remains to be in the philippines is unthinkable. >> how much of this was a middle finger to you and to the family? >> a lot. a big one. >> whatever sherry's suspici...