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>> i would imagine in the panic that was going on when you're about to go down, right, that you'll say yeah, we'll figure out whatever you can do. so probably. and i imagine that chairman cummings will end up referring him. >> sandra: she expects michael cohen will be referred to the justice department for a perjury investigation after critics pointed out several discrepancies in the dramatic public testimony he gave late last month. we have complete coverage with former campaign advisor michael caputo and let's go to catherine herridge live in washington >> a senior democrat on the house over...

In case you are wondering if this will be a fair investigation, fox's catherine herridge found out that schiff's democratic staff came here four times to meet with her merger of michael cohen for over ten hours ahead of his seven hours of public testimony. republican congressman mike turner told fox this clearly shows to him the witness was coached inappropriately. sources familiar with the cohen meeting state of the house until staffers covered such topics as whether the president inflated some of his assets to insurance companies and his close relationship with head of the is"national enquir...

Clients. >> with me now, the former federal prosecutor and defense attorney sarah azari. if threats are being made to cohen's family, not just cohen, but his father-in-law, wife, that's even a bigger deal. >> this is where potentially there's an issue. we don't know the extent of whether cohen's family has received specific and direct threats. i mean, that would be something that federal prosecutors would probably be investigate iing ore fbi at least to see how serious those threats are. i mean, the whole issue of cohen coming before congress and as we saw a little bit in the the letter yester...

Government level. what it is translated into the document that was put out today by the government, it calls that "campaign political synergy." they don't go further in terms of explaining what they mean by that, but what does that tell you, if anything? >> not much, because of the very fact they are leaving it purposely vague. i think you have to look at it and realize, the situation with cohen is essentially a failed cooperator, anna ford is a breach cooperator come on the same continuum, but maybe a deeper depth of hell for him. when they put in information that cohen is denying from it is ...

How the trump organization works, how the money flows and the real estate deals. if mueller had any information that would lead him down those paths, particularly the trump tower moscow, that would be an avenue he would want to talk to him about. there's also been reporting that cohen, implying cohen knew that trump knew about the meeting with the russian lawyer at the trump tower, and of course the statements about that meeting are now in question. that would be another area they would be worth probing, whether cohen has the goods on any of these things remains to be seen, but these are some ...