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He did go to prison for some time and fought in cuba. people like mccain have fought to have this person pardoned at one time. presidents are usually reluctant to try to pursue pardon power because they usually have a great deal of respect for the law. this law in particular under which he was convicted is not one that should have been respected in the same way. the president would like to use it to show his respect level for pardoning power. >> the law was appalling back then. some presidents including obama tried to give the sense that he would rather talk about cases pending now rather than...

More he dislike likes. but you see the institutions buckling and strange but not breaking under trump's antics and his fits and his bluster and threats. you are seeing the institutions holding on. and if a sessions were to leave, don't forget, this is a former senator. he can pick up the phone and call a bunch of people to his defense in the u.s. senate. so far the republican leadership has basically been quiet while trump acted this way. we don't like the tweets. but once you start wrecking institutions senators tend to start making a lot more noise. >> here is the irony that you'd have chuck...

Have chuck schumer and every democrat who doesn't like jeff sessions going out there and defending sessions. >> do not fire jeff sessions whatever you do. >> kon on the comey memos how big a deal is that the inspector general is looking into whether comey -- basically there was classified information in the memos that leaked out. and also to a wider circle perhaps than previously. >> it's a huge deal. any time the inspector general is looking at conduct like that they will make criminal referrals. it's not good news for comey in that sense if it leads to anything. on let other hand the key iss...

Position which mueller was fbi director. general mukasey, judge mukasey, you were on radio with me this morning and on tv tonight. it's like we are playing the whole day today, i love it? >> me too. >> laura: judge, let's talk about this wild day. now we have an investigation going on at the ig, a criminal referral of andrew mccabe who is, of course, comey's deputy. now the insuranc inspector genes investigating whether comey knew some of this information was classified when he transmitted it to his pal at columbia. yeah, i think we ought to put to rest one of the things one of your guests sai...

General mukasey, judge mukasey, you were on radio with me this morning and on tv tonight. it's like we're spending the whole day together. i love it. >> me too. >> laura: judge, let's talk about this wild day. now we have an investigation going on at the ig, a criminal referral of andrew mccabe who is, of course, comey's deputy. now the inspector general is investigating whether comey knew some of this information was classified when he transmitted it to his pal at columbia. yeah, i think we ought to put to rest, something that one of your guests said in the last segment. well the memos weren'...