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Forth in a trial. he's willing to have the first stage of a trial take place and if members still want witnesses to come, perhaps hold votes on whether they want to hear from the witnesses. those votes will be on a threshold. republicans have 53 seats in the senate. if mcconnell gets his way. however, mcconnell and democratic leader, chuck schumer, still need to meet. they have a sitdown to agree with what the rules of the road will be. schumer has laid out his proposal, saying he wants witnesses. what pelosi is doing, saying she will not send over the articles of impeachment until she has an ...

Articles of impeachment and the names of the manager from nancy pelosi. nancy pelosi is saying i'm not going to give you those documents unless i feel like the trial is going to be something fairer than what i've heard so far. mcconnell may say tomorrow -- actually at 9:30 when he speaks today, he may say i'm just going ahead and if nancy pelosi wants to delay this forever, that's on her. but he also wants to get this over with. that's been a key principle of his. so that's the game that's going on. again, how it gets resolved, whether mcconnell agrees to any sort of movement in the trial he's...

Chuck schumer a little bit of leverage when he speaks with mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell will speak in a couple of hours, laying out his view of the next steps forward. pay close attention to that. and pay close attention to whether mcconnell and schumer meet. and pay attention whether the articles of impeachment are sent to the united states senate. >> thank for that. democratic lawmakers lining up to support speaker pelosi's vision. >> senator mcconnell said he is, in effect, the foreman of the jury, is working with defendant's counsel, that's not fair. that's an indication of an unfair...

Record, but i think the republicans are just pushing this even further along, clearly, the president sees this as a winner politically for hymn in 2020 and they're gamble bable and putting their chips, the republicans are, on defending the president in the house. the big question will be if the house passes impeachment articles, whether mcconnell allows to trial to even happen and if he does, do 20 senate republicans cross over and support conviction along with the democrats. >> mcconnell said he would bring it up. but does that mean he has to bring it to a vote. >> that's a big question. the ...

Blue relegated to the coast. a few metro areas, but the flip side is if you just ran the popular vote in 2016, the one democrats liked to do, there were 3 million view rer votes for trump than clinton. >> did nixon win 49 states before he was impeached? >> he was never actually impeached though. he quit because he knew he was about to be impeached. looking at history, does the white house look at that and say to themselves nixon did the wrong thing. he should have stay nd and kept fighting. the congress wouldn't actually do anything about it. are they betting that even if the house impeaches h...