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I will ask during the impeachment proceeding for a vote on whether mulvaney should testify and whether bolton should testify. and many of my republican colleagues will be in a real dilemma. >> there is a new washington post/abc news poll that's got a lot of headlines today because it finds 71% of those surveyed do want the president to let his aides testify. 64% of republicans questioned in this poll said they agree. trump's television lawyer rudy giuliani is back in the news. "the new york times" says rudy alerted the president a couple of times about how former u.s. ambassador to the ukraine...

Defend president trump under oath in a senate trial? >> now, speaking to msnbc's chris hayes last night, schumer said he would push for a senate vote to include key witnesses in a trial. >> i'm allowed to ask the votes -- i will ask during the impeachment proceeding for a vote on whether mulvaney should testify? and whether bolton should testify and whether casey should testify and whether griffin should testify. and many of my republican colleagues will be in a real dilemma. >> and senator mitch mcconnell also admitted yesterday that in a senate impeachment trial it wouhe would not be an impa...

We know you're not going to succeed at that. she's a lot tougher than you. >> you know, generally it is the case that the majority is in each house controls that house. that's always been the case for the house. it's increasingly been the case of the senate as the senate rules have sort of morphed over years and partisan polarization taking hold. given the fact that you don't have a majority, what is the strategy here? >> right. >> i understand you can impress upon the leader. you can try to shame them. you can try persuasion. we saw your democratic colleagues try to do that to the minority on...

Oversight committee for two and a half years. i have got to tell you the obama administration obstructed us every single day in terms of witnesses and documents it. is a daily occurrence and it happened in democratic administrations as well. and it's a joke. it's not evidence there. brian: real quick. i want to get your take on a theory out there that nancy pelosi, being that she is a political chess player, might say i am going to wait on actually pushing this forward until i get a court to decide whether mulvaney, pompeo and others and bolton are forced to testify? do you think -- do you see...

Mr. mulvaney responded i asked the national security council set it up for tomorrow. it's important to remember the military aid for ukraine is the big cudgel. he writes with that trump is surrounded. mulvaney is central in the whole thing because he's also been subpoenaed, because he tried to join a court case to rule whether he should come out there and seems to have in some ways the most direct exposure for people not named donald trump or rudy giuliani. >> there's one more reason why mulvaney is such an interesting figure here. it's that trump has been talking to aides, exploring the possi...