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A vaccine. learn more at health care.gov. >> it sounds like they are pushers but what will it do to costs? making it seem free, those screenings must be paid by someone. insurance companies pay the cost is just hidden. imagine if we bought food that way. you could buy grocery insurance. i would go filets for $28 a pound. why buy cheaper cuts? that is what we've got with healthcare. obamacare would make that worse. the solution is to face facts and say, we need a market. that means we need to pay more of our own healthcare costs ourselves. it does happen in america, in illinois in a city they l...

State or computers. >> i also understand you can buy life insurance from another state. this is a common sense solution that would immediately, we think start driving down costs. at the end of the day the reason that so many people don't have health insurance because they can't afford it. what we really needed is something that will drive down the cost of insurance. that will allow more people to be covered by it. >> john: last point with you, when you have 48 employees, obamacare said 50 employees but there are all these other laws that kick in 20 employees, 25, at hundred employees you can't...

What she or he considers the best advice for i, but your doctor may be following orders. what i'm worried about what is happening to my profession. does it veterinary ethic rather than a hipocratic ethic? >> john: coming up who pays this. employers pay on obamacare. also, praise for discrimination. also, praise for discrimination. [ applause ] fore! no matter what small business you are in, managing expenses seems to... get in the way. not anymore. ink, the small business card from chase introduces jot an on-the-go expense app made exclusively for ink customers. custom categorize your expenses...

She said this is the list the government gave me. we are moving money around. people are not getting more care. >> i disagree with you. you are nice gentleman and i feel like and no disrespect. you are a numbers person. i'm an everyday doctor. the fact of the matter, massachusetts, 98% is covered. this is expanding care and closing the gap. 50 million people are uninsured. affordable care act is 32 million people be able to get some quality insurance. >> john: majority of americans are on your side. poll numbers, 72% of americans supported subsidies for the poor to buy health insurance. >> i s...

Me john should pay less if we both could afford it. go back to fire insurance. you had one house that is old timbers with oil rags in basement. you have another built up to every modern code. nobody in the right mind would say they should pay the same amount in insurance. in preexisting conditions, it's sadder case. it's not the people's fault. >> john: some people are obese, some people smoke. >> are you looking at me? the moral argument gets murkier. >> john: insurance company for rewarding the person that exercises? >> there is no reward for it. let's go back to another thing that is popula...