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Operational control over the main events in the special counsel's prosecutor life. >> thank you so much for that helpful perspective. bringing in nick and nancy watching that with me, and it's interesting, nick, when you look at sort of the arc of the career over the years. >> it's amazing that pete mentioned there's conservative groups running ads against a deputy attorney general in the justice department. if you ask who rosenstein is now, he's a target. exactly who conservatives narrow in on next, sharing that ad among other groups. there's no personality that motivates conservatives like t...

The comment coming after president trump appeared to lash out at deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. joining me now, francesca chamber from "the daily mail" and car rin from "the washington post." if i may begin with you, car rin, what is the conventional wisdom on whether rosenstein will have to recuse himself? >> there isn't conventional wisdom. if he does recuse himself, it will probably be because his memo he wrote considering comey's handling of the clinton e-mail probe was used by the president as the initial excuse for why he was firing the fbi director. then the president said duri...

Sort of suddenly. and again, those are questions the administration will have to answer -- >> but there seems to be some -- there does seem to be some confusion about whether rosenstein's justification for why there was no confidence in comey would match up with president trump's. we're going to play a sound bite of what president trump has said about comey in just a moment. but rosenstein had said that the director was wrong to usurp the attorney general's authority back in july to announce his conclusion that the case, meaning the case to do with hillary clinton's e-mail and e-mail server, b...