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But i think that i laid it out in a way that is hard to disagree with. >> well, lets let me -- let me. no, no. i think it's an important point that you made. i want to talk about it. first of all, yesterday, i said, if i had that information, that salacious information that was not verified, i would not repeat, publish it. then, i said, and i stick by every syllable of this, if i found out, that the top members of the national security establishment in this country match with the two most important people, the president, and the president-elect, i would report that without the salacious inform...

It is refreshing and it is very good for our democracy that we have a president that is trying to get us back to a free press. >> the maca >> sean: michael goodwin of "the new york post," a very good writer, he said thay were hoping and if you look at e breathlessness and hysteria by which cnn was reporting this story, he said that they were hoping for political kill shot against trump. is this indicative of what is going to happen in the next 4-8 years post ? >> i don't think there is a kill shot. he is a great choice but, those were choices in his cabinet that would match any cabinet of some...

Russia's effort to influence the u.s. election. and the anti-trump garbage was included and that intel briefin briefing. vice president biden said today that the president questioned why the gossip was even included in the briefing and he was not pleased. that is to mr. obama's credit. the next day, donald trump received the same intelligence from four senior u.s. intelligent cheats domain chiefs. that is when all hell broke rose. also, receiving information, eight congresspeople. paul ryan, nancy pelosi, mitchell macconnell, adam schiff, richard burke, and mark warren. a short time later, cnn...

Trump, was doing. did you think it had any press worthiness? >> no. >> bill: none, zero. >> one, i didn't know the background of who did it. i learned something, this is why i should watch our show more. i didn't know the connection of the british guy to the attack -- >> bill: i'm glad you learned it. as a sitting senator, you read it. you didn't think that the present should have access to it? >> absolutely not. >> bill: okay. >> the first thing i thought of, we should all be suspicious of this because i wouldn't put it past the russians to plant the story. >> bill: of course they planted the...

>> nbc news based on one source and they said it wasn't verbally presented, and we never said it was. >> anderson, do you think it should have been, though? if it's worthy -- >> i don't know. i can't speak -- >> do you think it should have been? >> i can't speak -- i'm not going to speak for the intelligence officials and what they chose to brief or not. >> then it's not important, right? they were in the room. >> i have no idea. that's for your judgment. i have no idea. we stand by our reporting which was we don't know whether it was actually verbally briefed. we don't have reporting on that....