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[inaudible] exception to attorney client. for those who didn't go to law school who were smart enough to go do something else, which doesn't include me and you, what is the significance of that crime fraud exception? >> so normally we think of this attorney-client privilege of something that can't be pierced. that's at the heart of our legal system that somebody comes to you confesses they have done something and they need legal representation, but this crime fraud exception which it looks like, you know, that's probably what's happened here with this forcing one of the president's attorneys t...

We know about the leakage, the people leak, and that's the ones we need to stop, instead of scatter shotting lpeverybody, which doesn't really work. i mean, i enforced the assault weapons ban for the provisions that were in it when i was a special agent in charge in atf for ten çóyears. i know how that works. i know what itñi does. the most effective portion of the law was thee1 magazine t!5á. the manufacturers got around a lot of the other provisions on it. nevertheless, i don't want to get on that topic, what i want to say is target the killers who leak because it's 77% of the killers an...

Case where there are a percentage of people who _ case where there are a percentage of people who get a positive decision recognising they need international protection, that's at in historical high _ protection, that's at in historical high. although we wouldn't know that from the debate. and the first incident, _ from the debate. and the first incident, around 70% of people are being _ incident, around 70% of people are being recognised as refugees or otherwise in need of protection. it's about what's happening in the world _ it's about what's happening in the world the — it's about what's...

And draw them in. this is just another form of that. as you've already noted, you know, a million dollars since this thing has been launched. people just spent a million dollars for nothing. >> or not. >> and so the reality of it is for a lot of these folks, it's less about the thing itself and still about the man. the rnc, the republican leadership, the party itself still doesn't know how to deal with that. they sill sit in quiet corners, right, and talk about it under their breath. they're so exasperated. you have been done for, what, six years, at some point, you stop being done and actuall...

>> i got nothing for you. this is some of the whacked stupidest stuff i have seen ever. but you know, here's the interesting part about this. we get a chuckle from it, there are a whole lot of people going to buy this stuff. >> i don't think so. >> something that doesn't exist. it's an nft. it's not like you can actually trade them. i don't know what he thinks, well, he does know what he thinks. he's not stupid. and i think the key thing goes to what jonathan in his conversation with alexi at the end of his show brought out, and that is this is a way to get back in the game. he knows he can ge...