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A fight and they've seen the fact the president and white house have been stonewalling. that's put more of them in the camp of saying we should move forward with impeachment since we can't get cooperation from the white house. the white house has been so willing to decide to just say a blanket no to any request from the congress, the fact now you have one republican saying, yes, we need to go forward with impeachment and saying he read the full report and did see impeachable offenses, it does give cover to a number of democrats and you can expect the drum beat of impeachment to increase and be...

>> well, both mcgahn and mueller would be big witnesses. and i suspect at some point we'll get both of them. >> john dean, good to have you with us. that was one opinion. we want to make sure you always have more than just one. here with us is white house reporter, tolou and cnn legal analyst michael zelden. michael, i want your opinion on congressman amash's situation. he said trump's actions detailed in the mueller report are impeachable. do you agree? >> i'm not sure they're impeachable. i think they are worthy of a preliminary inquiry. i think that for congress to make a determination ab...

Who will come up and start testifying about it because they have to educate the public. today very few americans have read the mueller report, even know what its contents are. so it's early in the process also. >> in fact, congressman amash believes most lawmakers haven't read the full mueller report. what's your reaction to that? >> i suspect that is the case. i worked on capitol hill. i was a staffer on the judiciary committee and know members are awfully busy. today even more so than back when i was there raising money is their full-time work. so i doubt they have read it, and i think they ...

Really, in either section but it clearly does not exonerate the president with the obstruction issue. >> which mueller spells out this does not exonerate him. >> yes. >> it seems as though white house or former white house counsel don mcgahn would be witness number one in an obstruction case. trump denies the special counsel's report that the president ordered mcgahn to fire mueller. the white house has told mcgahn not to comply with the subpoena. is it really up to the white house whether or not we hear from mcgahn? >> it is not. they have no control over him. they'd have to go to court and g...

Would be the senate. the senate is certainly not there. >> you agree with amash and have noted that mueller's report presents clear evidence of obstruction. but if amash is just one republican voice, is there enough political and legal momentum for anything to come out of this? >> there's certainly enough votes in the house, but not enough votes in the senate. of course, the senate would try in the articles of impeachment sent by the house. so i think it's a nonstarter as far as removal or a guilty and removal judgment at this point. but typically these things take a process that has really no...