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Had to do what they did. what do you say about him as a man and his disposition towards police? >> well, as far as i know, he would comply. he doesn't want to cause trouble. he has a family and trying to earn money to feed that family. so him causing problems to go down to jail and that is not his character. that's not in his repertoire. as you can see on the film, he's not resisting. tit for tat. we're not agreeing with that. >> reporter: growing up in the city, have you seen anything like this before? >> no, i haven't and i'm glad it's finally come to turns with sean bel and mattel, all the ...

Jury determining the choke hold and stuff, does intent matter? whether the officer intended to use a choke hold or intended to compress? >> well, a choke hold is not illegal. a choke hold is against new york city police department policy but it's not a crime to use a choke hold. the issue before the grand jury was the unreasonable use of force. that's also a difficult term to define. but choke holds in and of themselves were not really the issue. >> there is a law against strangulation in the city that began as a domestic violence law. >> that's one of the many questions about this grand jury ...