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In office. there is a little bit of confusion. i will say that as nadler's statement indicated and sources on the hill told me there are not the votes among the democratic caucus to proceed. nancy pelosi is always aware of her whip count. she is very knowledgeable in terms of okay, what position does this put individuals in purple congressional districts who are within my caucus? she is listening to them. again, treating this as a political versus constitutional question. >> you make good distinctions. opening an inquiry and proce proceedi proceedings. i'll talk to representative gregory meeks...

Are deciding which way to go in the capsized vote, one group leaves and they all die. they listen to the media, if the democrats listen to the media they will go the wrong way on the vote. and they will perish underwater. >> jesse: not one of your best analogies. a >> greg: i thought it was beautiful. >> dana: the in-laws one. >> jesse: dana, i was reading "axios" this morning, they only did a whip count and found 20-30 house democrats supporting impeachment. >> dana: that's why the media coverage is way overblown compared to what people really want. and house speaker nancy pelosi a speaker be...

And, of course, i mean, the problem in any kind of negotiations that take place with donald trump is you don't know if he's negotiating in good faith. i talked to pelosi about that and she basically said, well, all we can do is try. when he's constantly shifting the goal post being a master negotiator doesn't do you any good when the stakes -- the terms of the negotiation are constantly being thwarted. but you're right that when pelosi says, look, i can beat you on this or i have the votes to achieve a, b, c. history suggests she knows exactly what she's talking about. you can pretty much take...

But you're right that when pelosi says, look, i can beat you on this or i have the votes to achieve a, b, c. history suggests she knows exactly what she's talking about. you can pretty much take to the bank whatever her whip count is, that it's going to hold. >> republicans know how serious this is. "the wall street journal" on october 29th released an analysis saying in the campaign cycle more than 135,600 house and senate ads have mentioned pelosi in an entirely negative context. that's more negative advertising than donald trump faced this year. >> right. you know, well, what that indicates...

I think whether or not this criminal justice reform bill happens in this lame dumb -- lame duck or some point down the road, we're headed down that direction. >> he wants the president to pick up the phone and call mitch mcconnell to tell him to do that. >> there are people inside the white house trying to push this, notably jared kushner, who is the big driver when it comes to the bill we're talking about, mitch mcconnell told kushner according to a white house official, in september-ish, don't do this before the midterms. if you hold off, making the commitment, i will give you a floor vote, ...