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How trump won. his populist message proved everyone wrong. so many people were proven wrong on election night. what was at the heart of it for you as you went through this story? >> it was very much states-like wisconsin where trump was campaigning. as trump said recently, even he didn't think he was going to win on election night. he saw the numbers. the way that he did win was actually very similar to the way he won the primaries which we analyze as part of the same series this story is a piece of, which is that he started with this very devoted working class white base in counties that had ...

Because of your gender. there are 18 million people that are receiving insurance that didn't otherwise have it because of obamacare. that is 18 million reasons that congress will have to be a little bit careful about how they change, repeal or replace this. and donald trump, you know, is now a politician. and he's got sort of the same logic that's going to be guiding him as well. >> eugene, do you get the sense that donald trump is kind of learning through the process as well? since we're seeing him walk back from his campaign promises so to speak, a little bit here? >> absolutely. and i think...

That's what -- just go to work, do something. >> to that point, there was a poll recently that americans are tired of hearing about the affordable care act. regardless of how they feel about it. >> they are saying move on, even the people who don't like it think it's crazy to keep trying to repeal it. so the american public is much smarter than the republican party. you ask who they are talking to. they are talking to their elderly, white base. they think that that is what the november elections will turn on and often they do. voters sadly often stay home in the midterms. but i keep thinking t...