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An issue there and it's an ongoing one and it's not just in detroit. >> i can't let that go because i wrote a little couple things down in the "wall street journal." look, number one, do not miss the point. it used to be the most segregated city, area, in the united states. it's not like that anymore. black middle class and white middle class live together in the detroit metropolitan region. what you have is a sore of poverty. that's a fact. two, eight mile is a conflict from a long time ago. we're talking money. we're talking money. >> what happens when you integrate? this is a point you ofte...

The attempt to integrate, right, black middle class detroiters trying to do better, integrating, but then as soon as they move in, you start seeing block busting. white families moving out. so you striving, you trying to do better, decreases the value of the very thing you're part of. >> when we talk about bringing back a majority african-american city, we're talking about going against the grain of decades of development policy that covertly -- >> destroyed it. >> it generated white flight. we talk about fannie and freddie making mortgages available to everyone. forget race. we built suburban...

Bedroom wall since i was a little girl. because that statement, that moment, is one that i think has resonated for so many of us that have considered our work to be political work in this country. take me back to that moment, you're a very young's let athle. why do you make that choice? >> it was necessary to make the choice. i grew up in the streets of new york, in harlem in particular. i saw the change. white flight as a kid coming in. the prejudice start to sneak in various agencies in new york. unfair housing, unfair education and at the same time, i saw a quandary of people that didn't re...

he was controversial. a bit on the edge. especially when i asked him about his murder of his wife, bonny lee bakley. >> i mean, i was worth $25 million. i could have hired somebody to kill her when she was in tibet or some place. she drove all over the country. she was out selling, doing her -- i could have hired somebody to follow her for ten months and make her disappear so nobody would ever find he for christ's sake. i would go out to dinner to kill her? what the [ bleep ]'s the matter with you! >> i didn't say you killed her. >> you didn't say i didn't. you said it's all very int...

>> this is "piers morgan tonight." my extraordinary interview with robert blake. he was controversial. a bit on the edge. especially when i asked him about his murder of his wife, bonny lee bakley. >> i mean, i was worth $25 million. i could have hired somebody to kill her when she was in tibet or some place. she drove all over the country. she was out selling, doing her -- i could have hired somebody to follow her for ten months and make her disappear so nobody would ever find he for christ's sake. i would go out to dinner to kill her? what the [ bleep ]'s the matter with you! >> i ...