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Moment. meantime i want to bring in our legal panel today. rebecca rose woodland, a trial attorney and ashley merchant. a criminal defense attorney. we'll hopefully grab the sound. it wasn't quite ready. a juror, juror number 12, who after the conviction of "whitey" bulger been communicating with him in prison and she, now says, she deeply regrets the verdict and has pretty serious accusations about the case. rebecca, the question is, will this somehow affect the appeals? you have the sentencing today but does this mean that "whitey" bulger lives another day and another trial? >> not necessari...

Alcatraz. i think whitey will be remembered for the corruption. whitey bulger was a creation of the fbi. he was protected by the fbi and to a larger extent by the justice department. i think the difference about -- compared with bulger and all the other criminals we have in the pantheon of infamous criminals, i think it says as much about the corruption of our government as it says about the evil finality of one -- hey, i expect whitey to be a criminal. he is a criminal. i don't expect my government to protect murderers. >> do you think that came out enough, though, in the trial? because it is...

Enormous pan african larder of ingredients flavors? >> no. if you're a whitey in the city you're probably going to eat the worst food of anyone in the city, quite honestly. in every country, obviously food is political. it always feels like it's a bit more political here. that there are these layers of things that you couldn't have. like restaurants. i go to restaurants. i think to myself, wow, this many years ago, i couldn't have come here with this person. they were not allowed to sit in here. and i remember very clearly being around 8. the cafe owner would regularly not pay the customer who...

This food is absolutely got no interest in fashion. it's never going to change. there'll still be the monkey gland sauce. >> you think the white chefs here understand the greatest advantage they have is that this enormous pan african larder of ingredients flavors? >> no. if you're a whitey in the city you're probably going to eat the worst food of anyone in the city, quite honestly. in every country, obviously food is political. it always feels like it's a bit more political here. that there are these layers of things that you couldn't have. like restaurants. i go to restaurants. i think to my...

Here understand the greatest advantage they have is that this enormous pan african larder of ingredients flavors? >> no. if you're a whitey in the city you're probably going to eat the worst food of anyone in the city, quite honestly. in every country, obviously food is political. it always feels like it's a bit more political here. that there are these layers of things that you couldn't have. like restaurants. i go to restaurants. i think to myself, wow, this many years ago, i couldn't have come here with this person. they were not allowed to sit in here. and i remember very clearly being aro...