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Together. john posed a question. he said, mostly in jest, of course, just hypothetical -- >> i said, david, have you ever contemplated committing the perfect murder? and he said yes. the key element to that is making sure that someone is caught and charged for the crime. once they have somebody, they'll stop looking, and that's how you can really get away. >> reporter: and now novak had taken off. and even though their questions didn't amount to hard evidence, of course, chris' defense attorneys wondered as they prepared for the trial, why the police had so readily dismissed novak as a suspect...

John fife of a conversation with novak one night after they dined together. john posed a question. he said, mostly in jest, of course, just hypothetical -- >> i said, david, have you ever contemplated committing the perfect murder? and he said yes. the key element to that is making sure that someone is caught and charged for the crime. once they have somebody, they'll stop looking, and that's how you can really get away. >> reporter: and now novak had taken off. and even though their questions didn't amount to hard evidence, of course, chris' defense attorneys wondered as they prepare fofrd th...

Of course, chris' defense attorneys wondered as they prepared for the trial, why the police had so readily dismissed novak as a suspect. dismissed him and a few other puzzling discoveries, like the one about ken's widow dee. remember, she was in prison at the time of his murder. when she first talked to police, she told them she had no idea her husband had a meeting the morning of his murder. no clue who he was meeting with. turns out, she was not telling the truth. >> hello? >> you have a call from an inmate. >> hello? >> hi, honey. >> reporter: it's standard procedure for prisons to record i...