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Jen paul mary, one of your colleagues on the campaign, she said on msnbc about the trump campaign and the russians, i believe that there was collusion. i believe that the trump staff, trump associates in some form, were at a minimum coordinating with wikileaks. in the timing of the leaks they were way too prepared. when wikileaks came oud with their leak du jour in the morning the trump campaign was ready to go with their statement about that." she's saying her impression. what is your view on that point, what did you observe in that regard? >> there is a lot of connections to the trump campai...

Russians were apparently listened into by u.s. agencies who were surveilling those calls. it's one thing to listen in on russian government officials but americans are not supposed to be surveilled by u.s. agencies unless there's a court-ordered warrant that says it's okay to do so. michael flynn was surveilled. why? was michael flynn the subject of a warrant? was it a warrant for a criminal investigation? was it a warrant for a counterintelligence investigation? and in either instance, if he was on the warrant, if there was a court-ordered warrant to surveil him because of one of those types ...

Calls. it's one thing to listen in on russian government officials but americans are not supposed to be surveilled by u.s. agencies unless there's a court-ordered warrant that says it's okay to do so. michael flynn was surveilled. why? was michael flynn the subject of a warrant? was it a warrant for a criminal investigation? was it a warrant for a counterintelligence investigation? and in either instance, if he was on the warrant, if there was a court-ordered warrant to surveil him because of one of those types of investigations, how did the white house end up appointing him to be national sec...

One of your senior colleague on this the campaign said here on msnbc, she said about the trump campaign and the russians, i believe that there was collusion. i believe that the trump staff, trump associates in some form, were at a minimum coordinating with wikileaks. in the timing of the leaks they were way too prepared. when wikileaks came oud with their leak du jour in the morning the trump campaign was ready to go with their statement about that." she's saying her impression. what is your view on that point, what did you observe in that regard? >> there is a lot of connections to the trump ...

Some kind of response in the moment. glen, you were saying after this initial leak with guccifer posted on d.c. leaks, the second thing that happened was seemingly more sophisticated leak that came through wikileaks. >> much more. the first one was sloppy, had russian metadata on it. >> meaning? >> meaning traces on the actual documen documents. there was russian language on. >> it so you could tell it was russian hackers? >> correct. >> now we're going to wikileaks timed on the eve of the convention, highly searchable user friendly search function, we could very easily cull the wheat from the...