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Times that he said it would be oh. the other question is bannon. bannon hasn't gone in yet. what will bannon to have say? he was a big enemy of kushner's. does he have any information on kushner that mueller will be interested in? we don't know. it will be interesting to see what he really told mueller and whether he was able to help mueller on any of these major obstruction questions. >> we are much obliged to our superb panel of journalists tonight. thank you all so much. as we approach our first break, coming up, new warnings about this looming release of the controversial memo and new fear...

That, for example, jared kushner was a driver of that firing. what will bannon say about that? why would people believe that kushner was a driver of that? why would he have done that? kushner, i will add here, denies that he was a driver, says it was the president's decision. what did they know inside the white house about flynn's conversations with the russians, about his interviews with the fbi? these are all things that bannon can shed some light on. >> and bannon is the one in this new book, as we've pointed out. he raised the possibility of money laundering that should be investigated as ...

The russia investigation and the media. it seems they have to get that out of their system before they can move on to policy. i don't think this will go away right away. but i think this is exactly how they take on anything that stands in their way. >> gabby, while plasing the author of fire and fury the other day, the president also pointed the finger at bannon. let's listen. >> i did a quick interview with him a long time ago having to do with an article, but i don't know this man. i guess sloppily steve brought him into the white house quite a bit. that's why sloppy steve is now looking for...

>> silly steve, nah, hobo steve, might anger the hobo community. >> sloppy steve. >> bannon is capable of coming up with biting nicknames as well. according to politico, he privately refers to president trump's son-in-law jared kushner as fredo. the craven's son in the godfather. though we should point out that politico originally misreported this saying that bannon called kushner frodo, the character from lord of the rings. so will bannon now return fire and come up with a nickname for his former boss? one wonders where this epic battle might end up, perhaps like an old west stand off. with s...

>> little marco. >> cruel and juvenile and occasionally racist. >> i call her pocahontas. >> how does president trump come up with that perfect nickname. does he workshop them? sar donnic steve. no. silly steve. nah. hobo steve. might anger if hobo community. >> sloppy steve. >> but bannon is capable coming up with biting nicknames as well. he privately refers to president trump eason in law jared kushner as fredo. the son in the godfather. though we should point out that politico misreported this saying that bannon called kushner froto. the character from "lord of the rings." will bannon come...