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Person, every man, woman and child had to give that to boeing to stay as well. >> is it worth it to the washington state folks it's a lot of jobs. >> it's a lot of jobs. i'm from south carolina. i'm from charleston. boeing has literally transformed charleston in a few years since i've gotten there in 2009. >> there was a turf battle. it was intra-union because the international union said take the deal and the locals in this boeing deal said no, let's not. what they wanted to do was boeing wanted to replace the pension with a pay into a 401(k). >> they did replace it finally. the first vote wa...

Forever with the private-sector unions. private-sector unions are less than 6% now unionized. it is the public sector that has the big unionization. when you push these companies, these companies can threaten to move to friendlier places and that's what basically happened. they had to concede or they were going to lose 20,000 jobs in washington. >> we got a lot of viewers in south carolina. there is a great big dream liner plant building boeing's dream liner down in charleston, south. what boeing said to the unions was unless you agree to concessions with pension costs we're going to else and ...

Locals lost. the people of washington state wind up with a big manufacturer in their state for a number of years. but then in 2020 or so, what's going to happen? >> the 737, 757 is going to be replaced. in 2019, 2020 the whole thing starts again and boeing will be pounding on the unions. remember, boeing is the 800-pound guerrilla. they can move almost anywhere because jobs, jobs, jobs is what governors and states want to bring in. >> in this case boeing won, union lost. >> remember the public-sector unions, there is no shareholder there. government employees keep pressing and there is nobody ...

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