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Yourself. i have seen it done. george h.w. bush did it you may recall. >> tucker: yeah very well. >> he was proabortion right and he became a fan of dooption and he was able to stakeout that territory and survive and carry on. in jones' case, i'm not sure. he is pretty far out there on that issue. i think you are right. certainly is a problem for him because it has proved abortion to be the most enduring moral issue of our time and maybe will for the foreseeable future. i think it has been a drag on his prospects and when all is said and done tonight, we look back we might well conclude as you...

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So will fox's bill hemmer who traveled all the way to california, clear i under the gun to get some real answers about how governor romney would govern. >> if you're looking for policy, that's really not the intention why we went to california. >> oh, i am sorry, i guess the policy was not off the discussion. okay. surely something of substance was on the table. >> you're a tough guy to crack. is there truth to that? >> depends on who is asking. >> i don't know whether that's the case or not. i think as people get to know me better some will like me and some won't. it is the nature of most fol...

The exact factual connections are controversial and they're not there between jared loughner and the political -- >> not until he speaks. >> okay, per se, not until he speaks, for one. we don't know if they're there, that's number one. and as many others have said, the only way for the president to succeed politically in this, if that's parts of his calculation at all, is to be completely nonpolitical. he has to be in an almost preacherly, secular preacherly role tonight. >> okay, guy, howard you first and then chuck, because it's a tough one. whole score here and say that he did that? will fo...

And he said it's unlike. the events we're talking about and the political culture are very controversial and there are not there between jared loughner and -- >> not until he speaks. >> per se. not until he speaks. we don't know they're there, that's number one. and as many others have said. the only way for the president to succeed politically in this, if that's part of his calculation at all, is to be completely nonpolitical. he has to be in an almost secular preaching role of -- >> chuck, because this will is a tough one, who will score here and say he did that some will fox, for example, o...