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Committed. perjury and intimidation of witnesses. lying. mueller is charging folks with that. witness intimidation and obstruction. which giuliani said nobody obstructed. destruction of evidence. the only report trump taking interpreters notes. 36 people charged with 172 counts and four prison sentences. keep that in mind when rudy says the only crime is the dnc hack. >> there's not a single bit of evidence the president of the united states committed the only crime you can commit here. conspired with the russians to hack. >> for all the razzle-dazzle let's stay clear. if he knew about what ma...

Then it's really up to congress to decide what they want to do with that. that could certainly be a very uncomfortable position for his republican majority in the senate to be in and we'll see how democrats in congress handle that if we ever see the findings of this mueller report, erin. >> which is a big question now that likely incoming attorney general william barr that he doesn't know how much he'll put out there. it will be very consistent with the law. i want to go to the former assistant secretary, julia kayem. the threat matrix, garrett graff. on this issue of the notes, we do not kn...

Does know what happened in these trump/putin meetings. why? >> sarah sort of touched on this bleakly. bob mueller has an enormous amount of access to classified intelligence, not just from our own u.s. intelligence agencies but foreign intelligence partners through the five is, intelligence sharing, alliance, the five english speaking countries as well as presumably german and dutch intelligence which has been great partners throughout this entire russia probe as well. so, you know, mueller probably has some access to information from the russian side about what has transpired in some of these...

Picks up the phone and calls "the new york times" which he ostensibly hates and he argues vladimir putin's case that putin was falsely charged. the times report comes as the man in charge of the senate's investigation says he is not asking for notes from interpreters who were in any of the five face-to-face trump/putin meetings we know of. chairman burr telling manu raju, no, he is not asking for the notes. will mueller have any of the notes including one where trump was literally the only american present. it was only putin, putin's interpreter and president trump. sarah murray is "out front....

Mueller has a bigger mandate, counter intelligence and criminal mandate. so i wouldn't make too much of what burr said though i think it was unfortunate because he shouldn't be making those legal conclusions. >> obviously it is important someone know. in fact, to my point, we don't know what mueller knows. god knows the senate is not asking for it. we hope the senate has it. there's only two things left. in it you said either trump goes down in history as the world's, quote, most famous useful idiot or that he is, in fact, a russian agent? >> yeah. i said given what we know, it'll almost be mo...