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More troops six months to a dwraer down the road and ask for a relaxation of the deadline to begin wraug. >> that's the heart of my question. >> did petraeus say, wait a minute, mr. petraeus, but i need more flexibility. >> behind all this, if you read all the comments, especially from some on the republican side is a basic conflict. counterinsurgency means you eliminate the taliban at some point, like the viet cong. counterinsurgency beat the rebel forces, in this case the taliban. knock them out as a military potential and basically make that country inhospitable to them in the future. at th...

Problem here, mcchrystal, otherwise a noble soldier, but said things he shouldn't have and allowed things to be said around him. he issued a warning today about division. who is he sending that message to in naming petraeus? he's not washing petraeus, is he? who is he warning? >> his own administration. i thought it was a remarkable moment there in the rose garden. yes, he was great and in charge and in command as commander in chief, as andrea said, but he was also basically pleading with his own administration. >> pleading? >> i wouldn't say pleading but issuing them a public order. >> yeah, ...

>> i said to the person i was talking to in the white house, i assume as soon as the president read this thing in "rolling stone" monday night mcchrystal is out because that's how i would have -- >> i heard somewhere they were going through names last night as replacements. >> that's not true. pains to tell me and probably told andrea that they wanted a very deliberative process here. they waited and had petraeus rocked up. >> when did they decide to sack him? >> you probably do know more than i, but i don't think they decided for sure. they had betraits in the wings waiting, and i think they ...

Retired colonel jack jacobs an msnbc analyst and "newsweek's" jonathan alter, author of "the promise." congratulations, jonathan. once again, you've scored a big one in your book "the promise." it's got all about the run-up with this with the fights between the president and general mcchrystal. it's a great look, by the way. anybody who wants to read a look at how we got to today read "the promise" by john. let me start with colonel jacobs on the ground over there in afghanistan, just debating as we came out of the first part of the program with what happens now. we've got a new general. will ...

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