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West, testing what would happen when he annexed crimea? now he's testing the government. will it do it at the cost of angering the russians? i don't think there's a master plan here. he pushes and he pushes and he waits to see what the response is. >> will putin respond to intensified u.s. and european sanctions? >> if there are energy sanctions, he will as sure as hell respond because 70% of the russian's government revenue comes from oil, natural gas, minerals, things like that. we have been very reluctant and by we i mean the europeans. that could cause an economic crisis. >> in germany the...

History. she has written over 40 books of fiction and nonfiction, poetry. her work has blown my mind only occasions. her new novel is out now, "carthage." thank you for being here. we will talk about the book in a second. i want to talk to you about another thing that you love, that you have written so amazingly about which is boxing. particularly mike tyson. wrote some amazing essays when tyson was coming out, first champion. the tyson story has really changed over the last decade. i wonder what are some of your observations on this sort of third and perhaps leading to the final arc of the mi...

Sense of what is going to happen. what happens next? >> the big question is whether we -- we are seeing there are russian forces conducting military exercises just across the border of ukraine. the big question is, is this -- is there something more? will putin were don't to grab ukraine? it was a pretty low-hanging fruit. not to be glib about it. it was easy for him to take. will he be satisfied with that and made his point? will he have gotten his port protected, his naval base? or does he want to keep pushing it? does he want to go into eastern ukraine and annex more territory? would the kr...

Is a mace statement of fact. the fact is the crimean in general lean far more towards russia than they do right now to the west. >> it's a little bit of an old-fashioned thinking if i quickly point out. even in crimea, only 60% of the population is russian. 15% are muslims. i don't think they're looking at the prospect of russian domination with any great joy. >> no. but 60% of the people are. >> final word to professor legvald an enthis question, really, a crucial one. will putin back down? >> i think he's not going to back down from the position he's currently established. the real question ...

>> no. but 60% of the people are. >> final word to professor legvald an enthis question, really, a crucial one. will putin back down? >> i think he's not going to back down from the position he's currently established. the real question is what's his game? what's he up to? not a bandit that's seized an opportunity in order to grab a piece of another country. at a minimum, i think he's trying to create the strongest possible hand he has to influence the future course of ukraine. i think he knows that the elections may 25th in ukraine to decide the next government, if they're entirely controlled...