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Of the counties in this country that have one choice and going down and number of insurers leaving markets, then it's -- the system is collapsing. so, the question has to be to everybody who's not with us on this is what can is your alternative. right now the current system of obamacare is failing every american who has obamacare. frankly, for those who don't have obamacare, for those who have employer-based insurance, for those who have tricare, medicare, it's driving up the costs. in the case of those with medicaid, medicare, tricare, they're going into doctors' offices who tell them more an...

Does the president and the administration intend to do to establish to satisfaction that the numbers coming out of the congressional budget office, which the president will question, are not substantial and can be countered by other information? in other words, is omb doing its own score? is the president relying on a think tank to counter the messaging? because senators are already indicating that they will put weight in the cbo score. >> again, i think this is part of an ongoing discussion with members as far as philosophical, what they belief, and a lot of these aspects is this plan and kee...

That is a widely reported activity that occurred back then. the president used the word wiretap in quotes to mean broadly surveillance and other activities during that. that is, again, something -- it is interesting how many news outlets reported that this activity was taking place during the 2016 election cycle and now are wondering where the proof is. it's many of the same outlets in this room that talked about the activities going on back then. >> reporter: on the same topic, on the cbo report, did the president think it was real then and phoney now? >> what cbo report? >> reporter: on the ...

Look into that and provide a report back. but i think there has been numerous reports from a variety of outlets over the last couple months that seem to indicate that there has been different types of surveillance that occurred during the 2016 election. >> and so what you're saying is the president doesn't have an obligation to provide any evidence -- it. >> i'm not saying that at all. i'm saying the request that was made from the house was to the department of justice. i think that's an appropriate question to ask them. what i'm telling you is from a white house perspective there's no questio...

>> yes. >> reporter: -- or assume it's phoney? >> it's real. >> reporter: how can we say it's real when you say -- >> i did not tell you that. >> reporter: the president said, you didn't, the president said the numbers were phoney then but very real now. >> there's a big -- >> reporter: he will later say actually -- >> hold on. i think the difference is the president was talking then and now about job creation. the number of jobs, the issue that he brought up in the quote you're talking about was the percentage of people who are unemployed. and there is no question that no matt how youook at t...