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U.s. athletes in the olympics and is hoping they all win medals. what do you think of the response? because again you stand by your reporting. >> absolutely. well, as i mentioned in the story, don, i have two sources. but there are more people who told me things, deeper detail with pence and his actions, reaching out to the u.s. olympic committee. but that was on such deep background the source didn't want to be mentioned as a source. we went with two. people were calling me. this is about one of the easiest stories i've broken in a long time. i feel incredibly comfortable with the reporting. ...

United states delegation at the olympics given his track record of being unfriendly to the lgbt community. there was a statement up on a congressional website back in 2000 where some people perceived to indicate his support of gay conversion therapy, and rippon, out as a figure skater, said he didn't want any part of it and said he had no interest in meeting with vice president pence at the olympics, which is customary for the u.s. athletes. >> what is the vice president's office now saying about all this? >> reporter: well, the vice president's office is disputing "usa today's" reporting that...

Conversation with mr. rippon. as we have said before, the vice president is supporting all the u.s. athletes in the olympics and is hoping they all win medals. what do you think of the response? because again you stand by your reporting. >> absolutely. well, as i mentioned in the story, don, i have two sources. but there are more people who told me things, deeper detail with pence and his actions, reaching out to the u.s. olympic committee. but that was on such deep background the source didn't want to be mentioned as a source. we went with two. people were calling me. this is about one of the...

The withdrawal from iraq. but all those things are not things you sort of win medals for and wear on your jacket. i think it may be that all of this ends up being a moot point. i can't imagine that many voters in 2016 going to the poles and deciding between a possible hillary clinton pandcy and a republican opponent by saying oh, but she was really good as secretary of state. i think republicans are hitting on her now because she's the topic du jour and she will be unless she gets out of the race. and they're trying to establish a pattern they can use in an election year. and that pattern is s...

The u.s. team did win medals. so quite clearly i think the president making a statement here. you know, i think jay is being cautious not to sort of go too far beyond and above what the president has already said on it. >> chris cillizza, kelly o'donnell, thank you so much. and mississippi senator roger wick eer now joins us. he's one of the leading members opposing today's budget deal. he joins us now. senator, thank you for being with us. >> glad to be with you. >> let me ask you about your objections because of the military retirees, the pension cuts. there have been a number of people, inc...