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I want people to get to know hillary. and i want her to be able to have these conversations. but i think people think they know so much about hillary and there's so much they really don't know about her. so we're going to keep at it and try to have these smaller events. >> karen finney good to be with you. >> take care jose. now to the president's attempt to fundamentally alter the relationship between the u.s. and cuba he says he intends to remove the communist nation's list from the removal of state sponsors of terrorism. that happened days after president obama met with raul castro in pan...

Between pro-democracy protesters and they were attacked as you can see, by pro-castro protesters. this happened near the cuban embassy in panama. joining me to talk through all this and more immigration reporter for "usa today" alan gomez. alan, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> you did a lot of reporting on the leadup to this summit. cuba still on the terrorist list t-cas trow regime wants that out because they can get a lot of credit once that list is -- once cuba is off that list. what's standing in place -- in the way of that? >> well i think we're getting to that point. the video yo...

Obstacle, was the biggest challenge in that summit. they haven't been invited for 20 years. every latin mesh country was upset with us for allowing them to be there. now they that's off the table. what has to happened, there's a lot that needs to be done and that's where the u.s. suddenly becomes they really can't get involved that much. as much as we'd like to impose ourselves, as much as we'd like to try to help folks along the way, now this becomes the issue that we're going to really struggle to handle for the foreseeable future. >> and venezuela that was coming in, the president with 14 m...

A lot of stuff gets done and that's a good piece of intel you have there. >> chris i'm glad to see you even though we were in panama together and didn't couch. sorry. >> see you in d.c. i hope. >> i hope so too. thanks. well this is an active situation we are covering for you right now. a possible active shooting situation in north carolina. this is happening at wayne community college. nothing confirmed right now but the school web site does say the campus is on lockdown and it's not a drill. it has been confirmed there was a 911 call received of a person being shot at the college. they don...

Telegraph. it's not about me it's about you. >> interesting, because when i first saw it i just flew in last night from panama called it up and the first couple of seconds i thought, is this it? i didn't know. there was no politics in the first, you know 20 seconds. but some argue, jonathan that a candidate needs an opponent to help define themselves. you have that last time. she lost there's no viable opponent on the democratic side. how does that impact her campaign? >> i think it means she's got a lot more time to individually meet with voters maybe a year and a half now. she doesn't want t...