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If we were to keep the obama administration's executive a. amnesty policy, likeliest outcome is that it too would be enjoyed just as was dapa. the department of justice has advised the president and the department of homeland security that the department of homeland security should be begin an orderly lawful wind down, including the cancellation of the memo that authorized this program. acting secretary duke has chosen appropriately to initiate a wind down process. this will enable the department of homeland security to conduct an orderly change and fulfill the desire of this administration to...

At his -- you know, the most awe dashs version of his campaign self. >> yeah. he feeds off the crowd, and it isn't until they start leaving in pretty good numbers and then usually he'll start to wind-down. i've seen it. but, jim, we heard the president say last night that he predicts former sheriff joe arpaio is going to be fine even though earlier the white house said nothing is going to happen about that. so arpaio was just asked about a possible pardon. here is what he just said. >> i have a great deal of respect for him. i always will have, pardon or no pardon. i'm with him to the end. and...

Political reality is democrats will not cross the aisle to make compromises with republicans. this is what republicans are forced into doing. and with respect to the congressman, he's not sitting in the senate talking and hashing out the deals that need to be made. look, we already know what the outline of the senate bill is going to be. they're going to make the house tax credits more generous. they're going to give more power to the states to experiment. slower wind-down of medicaid expansion. they may not give -- they might not be as aggressive as getting rid of the obamacare tax cuts as th...

This puts enormous pressure on this white house, david. >> without a doubt, and i think he followed up saying to sean spicer, "come on, man." so, i do think the white house -- listen, first of all, the new investigation that we learned about, the ig investigation at the department of defense, this white house is eager to have some of these investigations wind down, not open up more investigations that are going to linger as a cloud over the administration, so that's first and foremost, because this just keeps the story out there for them. but as you're saying, this begs the question. so, micha...

With patient-centered health care. chris: if you had done that, and you could have done it under reconciliation, there'd be no -- >> and we did it 15 months ago, chris. chris: -- there would be no subsidies to help people buy insurance or pay for their premiums or deductibles, there would be no expanded medicaid -- let me finish -- there'd be no expanded medicaid to help those people. the result of the clean repeal is that millions of people who currently have health insurance coverage wouldn't. >> no. the result of a clean repeal is we get rid of obamacare -- chris: right. but that has the su...